I feel like we’ve finally decompressed after an amazing week at Web Directions South last week. Not only was it the best WDS ever but the whole Web Week was a load of fun, with a top opening night and a really great Ignite Sydney.
Scott and I presented Beyond SEO, which was lots of fun to write. The topic has been developing for years as Scott and I have had many friendly arguments about SEO. My original view was that the SEO industry shouldn’t exist as good developers, producers and content writers should be fulfilling all SEO needs within a company - if a site is developed and written correctly, an external SEO agency shouldn’t be needed.
However, Scott has convinced me recently to his point of view - for advanced techniques and tricky situations there is still a need for SEO as an industry. I’ve embedded the slides below, and the argument will continue underneath…
Derek Powazek published a rant against SEO yesterday, saying:
Search Engine Optimization is not a legitimate form of marketing. It should not be undertaken by people with brains or souls. If someone charges you for SEO, you have been conned.
He then followed up with an SEO FAQ today. Derek is someone I have a lot of respect for but I think he is wrong on a few key points. His general argument I agree with. If websites were build correctly by good developers and content writers, there is no need for SEO. I think most people who I know in the SEO industry agree with that.
However it’s like watching Jason Fried talk about how func specs are useless and you should never use them. (I’m paraphrasing a little). I agree in theory but if you work in a large organisation, you need them to avoid scope creep, etc. In a small agile company like 37 signals it’s great to not use them, but if you’re working on a project involving 3 separate agencies and 27 stakeholders then a func spec is a necessity.
It’s the same reading Derek’s thoughts on SEO. If you’re Derek Powazek, or Eric Meyer, or someone who has worked in the industry for 10 years, you don’t need SEO. We don’t “SEO” our own site as we believe in providing quality content and clean code - I don’t count keywords or target density and rarely check my stats. But I am not an online retailer trying to run a business selling things online. I’m not trying to build a brand without about-the-line advertising. And I know a lot about the web - something many people engaging SEO agencies don’t.
I think Derek’s argument is around semantics - many SEOs (ourselves included) teach companies about web standards and clean semantic code, writing well for humans and not using jargon, and providing quality content. Derek says we should call ourselves web developers. A very simplistic view as I don’t develop for clients, and I do more than development - it’s also around writing content, IA and structure. But the big reason I won’t call myself a developer is that clients often don’t have budget for developers, or they have them in-house - they do, however, have budget for SEO. With this SEO budget, we are making the web a better place for the above reasons - we’re teaching clients about web standards and writing properly.
Anyway the whole argument makes me feel like this:

I think it’s unfortunate that Derek tars the entire SEO industry with the shonky used-car SEO brush but I accept that I am probably never going to change his mind so I’ll leave it at that. Yes, the SEO industry does attract some sleazy real-estate agent types in it for the money. But there are a lot of brilliant, good people in the industry and it just makes me a little bit sad that we are all generalised as the same type. I mean, I could say that due to the number of rubbish usable crappy all-Flash sites out there that the Design industry are scammers and scum who rip you off and don’t know the web but I know it’s not true - they are only a small percentage.
So I will re-iterate Derek’s point without the vitriol and say that the majority of SEO is about having good clean code and quality content - we have always said that. And I think it’s something that belongs in-house in an organisation (that point is from me in our presentation rather than Derek). But whilst there are developers coding in tables and Flash out there, and non-online-savvy marketing people in charge of your website then there is a need for SEO.
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